Comments on: Watch Out for Refund Rates! http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/ Insights and Thoughts from a World Class Internet Marketer Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:28:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Zack http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11652 Zack Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:24:44 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11652 @Kevin - "If someone doesn’t know in 7 days if they like a product then they should stay inside and off the roads!" I'm willing to bet if they change the money back to 7 days, the refund rate will be much much higher. CB is obviously not stupid and they have valid reasons to do so. 60 days money back will increase sales conversions and because it's so long, most people will just forget about it, so this actually lowers the refunds as opposed to what many people believe. @Amit - Slightly off topic, I noticed that there are a lot of posts on forums lately about how Google are banning accounts, I mean we can only do so much to play with their rules but sometimes we might accidentally did something that Google dislike and they might kick us out of their program without even knowing it. What's your thought about this issue? Do you have this fear of waking up one morning just to find that your accounts were banned? @Kevin – “If someone doesn’t know in 7 days if they like a product then they should stay inside and off the roads!”

I’m willing to bet if they change the money back to 7 days, the refund rate will be much much higher. CB is obviously not stupid and they have valid reasons to do so. 60 days money back will increase sales conversions and because it’s so long, most people will just forget about it, so this actually lowers the refunds as opposed to what many people believe.

@Amit – Slightly off topic, I noticed that there are a lot of posts on forums lately about how Google are banning accounts, I mean we can only do so much to play with their rules but sometimes we might accidentally did something that Google dislike and they might kick us out of their program without even knowing it. What’s your thought about this issue? Do you have this fear of waking up one morning just to find that your accounts were banned?

]]> By: Affiliate Marketing http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11629 Affiliate Marketing Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:49:39 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11629 Good post for those who use clickbank. :) Good post for those who use clickbank. :)

]]> By: Kevin http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11606 Kevin Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:43:18 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11606 I gave up on CB for this very reason. Plus they have a 60 day money back which doesn't help their affiliates. 60 days! We live in an instant world and CB offers 60 days. If someone doesn't know in 7 days if they like a product then they should stay inside and off the roads! I gave up on CB for this very reason.

Plus they have a 60 day money back which doesn’t help their affiliates.

60 days!

We live in an instant world and CB offers 60 days.

If someone doesn’t know in 7 days if they like a product then they should stay inside and off the roads!

]]> By: Gagan http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11604 Gagan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:07:30 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11604 Here's a another thing you have to worry about CPL offers - dieing out or being pulled out at 24 hrs notice. Happened to me today. 2 week old campaign on this new offer I was slowly optimizing to make profit was shut down for indefinite time. My conversion rates were awesome and I was slowly optimizing it. I wasn't even finished entering 70% of the keywords I had compiled. I replaced it with a similar offer (different merchant) from another network. It just doesn't convert as well and the payout is less. Guess what I'm losing money now. Sucks! Niche-affiliate-marketing.com Gagan Here’s a another thing you have to worry about CPL offers – dieing out or being pulled out at 24 hrs notice. Happened to me today. 2 week old campaign on this new offer I was slowly optimizing to make profit was shut down for indefinite time. My conversion rates were awesome and I was slowly optimizing it. I wasn’t even finished entering 70% of the keywords I had compiled. I replaced it with a similar offer (different merchant) from another network. It just doesn’t convert as well and the payout is less. Guess what I’m losing money now. Sucks!

Niche-affiliate-marketing.com
Gagan

]]> By: tyler dewitt http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11602 tyler dewitt Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:33:21 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11602 Amit, you must be a clickbank junkie :) Amit,

you must be a clickbank junkie :)

]]> By: tyler dewitt http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11601 tyler dewitt Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:17:44 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11601 I mean they did increase our payout. I mean they did increase our payout.

]]> By: tyler dewitt http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11600 tyler dewitt Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:17:05 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11600 Gagan, With lead payouts you do have to worry about the lead pay out. Well depending on what niche your in we have one niche we're doing that does around 200-300 dollars a day in profit (finally). It took me over 6 months to get this one going, but they are very strict on the leads. They have no increased our pay out becuase our lead quality is great, but they have some affiliates they will not give increased pay outs too. Lead quality is very important that would be like my company going to tell an affiliate to promote our services, but they turn around and channel leads in through places like craigslist, digitalpoint, and banner ads--all of these channels drive a TON of leads, but guess what? The quality of them is very low. So in other words 1. they don't convert or 2. they have no value what so ever. Gagan,

With lead payouts you do have to worry about the lead pay out. Well depending on what niche your in we have one niche we’re doing that does around 200-300 dollars a day in profit (finally). It took me over 6 months to get this one going, but they are very strict on the leads. They have no increased our pay out becuase our lead quality is great, but they have some affiliates they will not give increased pay outs too.

Lead quality is very important that would be like my company going to tell an affiliate to promote our services, but they turn around and channel leads in through places like craigslist, digitalpoint, and banner ads–all of these channels drive a TON of leads, but guess what?

The quality of them is very low. So in other words 1. they don’t convert or 2. they have no value what so ever.

]]> By: Peter http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11597 Peter Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:29:50 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11597 I promote clickbank offers. 457 sales and 9 refunds so far. So it's around 2%. I promote clickbank offers. 457 sales and 9 refunds so far. So it’s around 2%.

]]> By: Gagan http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11594 Gagan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:53:51 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11594 Come to think of it, I did promote clickbank offers. 3 out of 10 sales were refunded. I stopped promoting CPA offers and have switch to CPL offers. With CPL offer you have to worry about lead quality. Come to think of it, I did promote clickbank offers. 3 out of 10 sales were refunded. I stopped promoting CPA offers and have switch to CPL offers. With CPL offer you have to worry about lead quality.

]]> By: Gagan http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/watch-out-for-refund-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-11593 Gagan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:51:49 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/?p=448#comment-11593 I don't promote anything that has refunds. I don’t promote anything that has refunds.

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