Comments on: My Take on Google’s Smack Down on Affiliates http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/ Insights and Thoughts from a World Class Internet Marketer Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:28:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Dave http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1418 Dave Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:34:53 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1418 I'm with Andrew. There's no way G is going to start screwing affiliates who have quality sites with quality content (i.e., a pages and pages of informative content), no matter what the niche is. Now it may get a bit tricker for "get rich quick" affiliates to figure out how to presell on their sites, but if they have quality content there, they'll be fine. - D I’m with Andrew. There’s no way G is going to start screwing affiliates who have quality sites with quality content (i.e., a pages and pages of informative content), no matter what the niche is. Now it may get a bit tricker for “get rich quick” affiliates to figure out how to presell on their sites, but if they have quality content there, they’ll be fine.

- D

]]> By: Amit http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1417 Amit Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:02:18 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1417 Hi Walter & Andrew, You've made some great points. There are lot of "get rick quick" ebooks, and comparison sites that add little to no value. However, it apparently seems that Google may be lumping all "get rich quick" ebooks, comparison sites, and travel sites into one. Whether they add value or not. And based on the deficiently of Google's algorithm, EXPECT that to be the case. This type of 'heavy handed regulation' is going to screw a lot of honest affiliates, while the black hatter will just find a workaround, or some other way to game the system. Hi Walter & Andrew,

You’ve made some great points. There are lot of “get rick quick” ebooks, and comparison sites that add little to no value.

However, it apparently seems that Google may be lumping all “get rich quick” ebooks, comparison sites, and travel sites into one. Whether they add value or not. And based on the deficiently of Google’s algorithm, EXPECT that to be the case.

This type of ‘heavy handed regulation’ is going to screw a lot of honest affiliates, while the black hatter will just find a workaround, or some other way to game the system.

]]> By: Walter http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1416 Walter Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:45:45 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1416 Amit, Overreacting, perhaps? You've always been the "bring on the next 100 slaps" guy. You know what Google wants, and they haven't changed their minds about any of that. I still see PPC sites that have nothing but ads on the landing page, and this type of junk cheapens the experience for everyone. They will continue to refine the algorithms so they can better detect these and similarly abusive sites without impacting legitimate sites. As for "get rich quick" business models and e-books there is the strata of web society out there that tries to "game" the system without returning anything of value. Project Black Mask: link-spam your site to get a high ranking, skim a few thousand dollars of sales until Google catches on and shuts your domain down, then walk away from the domain name and repeat elsewhere. There are automatic website generators, that create complete sites by copying content from other places on the web. You know what Google *wants to* slap, and seems to me your methods of creating a Google friendly site are sound. There will always be shades of gray and things that will get caught in the net that we feel shouldn't have been caught, that's just life. But PPC marketing is an exercise in multivariate optimization, and keeping Google's little algorithms happy is just another variable to optimize for. Amit,

Overreacting, perhaps? You’ve always been the “bring on the next 100 slaps” guy.

You know what Google wants, and they haven’t changed their minds about any of that. I still see PPC sites that have nothing but ads on the landing page, and this type of junk cheapens the experience for everyone. They will continue to refine the algorithms so they can better detect these and similarly abusive sites without impacting legitimate sites.

As for “get rich quick” business models and e-books there is the strata of web society out there that tries to “game” the system without returning anything of value. Project Black Mask: link-spam your site to get a high ranking, skim a few thousand dollars of sales until Google catches on and shuts your domain down, then walk away from the domain name and repeat elsewhere. There are automatic website generators, that create complete sites by copying content from other places on the web.

You know what Google *wants to* slap, and seems to me your methods of creating a Google friendly site are sound. There will always be shades of gray and things that will get caught in the net that we feel shouldn’t have been caught, that’s just life. But PPC marketing is an exercise in multivariate optimization, and keeping Google’s little algorithms happy is just another variable to optimize for.

]]> By: Gary http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1415 Gary Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:32:42 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1415 I find it laughable Google will start penalizing price comparison sites, when they are running FROOGLE (a price comparison site with VERY little unique content). It becomes a case of “do as we say, not as we do.” What a bunch of self-righteous, communist bastards! I think I’ll fly to China and try typing in the search term “religious rights” in the Google search box and see how long it takes Google to report me to the Chinese government for human rights violations. Much like Microsoft, Google has become the next big ‘necessary evil’. At least we can hold out hope that someday Yahoo and MSN will catch up a bit. Gary I find it laughable Google will start penalizing price comparison sites, when they are running FROOGLE (a price comparison site with VERY little unique content). It becomes a case of “do as we say, not as we do.”

What a bunch of self-righteous, communist bastards!

I think I’ll fly to China and try typing in the search term “religious rights” in the Google search box and see how long it takes Google to report me to the Chinese government for human rights violations.

Much like Microsoft, Google has become the next big ‘necessary evil’. At least we can hold out hope that someday Yahoo and MSN will catch up a bit.

Gary

]]> By: andrew wee http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1414 andrew wee Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:47:28 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1414 believe it or not i agree with google. a lot of the single page websites out there kill the user experience. as for comparison sites, have u seen the SERPs and PPC results populated by "pseudo" review sites? They scrape product specs and redirect to a bizrate or shopping.com site. who the heck needs that? when i google for sony hard disk camcorder (model number), i want to find a review like they have at cnet.com. where they actually tell you what's good, and what's not about the product, not the generic junk i can already get from sony.com. i agree with what they say, and smart marketers will know how to get around these roadblocks which will hit the low hanging value-destroying marketers... believe it or not i agree with google.

a lot of the single page websites out there kill the user experience.

as for comparison sites, have u seen the SERPs and PPC results populated by “pseudo” review sites?

They scrape product specs and redirect to a bizrate or shopping.com site.

who the heck needs that?

when i google for sony hard disk camcorder (model number), i want to find a review like they have at cnet.com. where they actually tell you what’s good, and what’s not about the product, not the generic junk i can already get from sony.com.

i agree with what they say, and smart marketers will know how to get around these roadblocks which will hit the low hanging value-destroying marketers…

]]> By: The True King Carlos http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1412 The True King Carlos Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:26:02 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1412 Ive yet to create a profitable campaign,im in month one of learning, so its going to take time for me to "get" it. That said, ive decided to follow Amit's lead and create a content rich site on one subject and use that as my ppc site. I dont like what Google seems to be doing, but im not discouraged, my desire for freedom is greater than the obstacles se's put in my way. Because of my limited knowledge, i wont move to another se until i learn the fundamentals of adwords, but i know that i will eventually get over to them. Another thing, Google wont be the biggest forever, there will come another that will provide greater incentives and those affiliate dollars will move over there. Amit, thank you for the time it took you to write this article, with warm regards, The true king carlos Ive yet to create a profitable campaign,im in month one of learning, so its going to take time for me to “get” it. That said, ive decided to follow Amit’s lead and create a content rich site on one subject and use that as my ppc site. I dont like what Google seems to be doing, but im not discouraged, my desire for freedom is greater than the obstacles se’s put in my way. Because of my limited knowledge, i wont move to another se until i learn the fundamentals of adwords, but i know that i will eventually get over to them. Another thing, Google wont be the biggest forever, there will come another that will provide greater incentives and those affiliate dollars will move over there.

Amit, thank you for the time it took you to write this article, with warm regards,
The true king carlos

]]> By: Brandon Estes http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1411 Brandon Estes Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:24:38 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1411 What I want to know is what defines a "get rich quick scheme"? Sounds way to vague to enforce but we'll see I guess. Also, what it the world is wrong with comparison shopping sites? Isn't that what froogle.com is? What I want to know is what defines a “get rich quick scheme”? Sounds way to vague to enforce but we’ll see I guess. Also, what it the world is wrong with comparison shopping sites? Isn’t that what froogle.com is?

]]> By: Tim http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1409 Tim Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:30:24 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1409 Amen Amit! You'd think they would be bending over backwards to help the people that put the money in their bank accounts every month. Hell, they didn't even invent PPC! They stole the idea from Bill Gross who invented the original Overture system which was sold to Yahoo. If people are buying the products that affiliates are promoting, then why should Google have a problem with it? The fact that people are buying means that the affiliate has filled a need. Google is a great search engine, but they weren't the first and I don't imagine they'll be the last. That's one of the great things about technology. Today's winner may be tomorrow's loser. Until then, I guess we have to suck it up or go elsewhere. Amen Amit! You’d think they would be bending over backwards to help the people that put the money in their bank accounts every month. Hell, they didn’t even invent PPC! They stole the idea from Bill Gross who invented the original Overture system which was sold to Yahoo. If people are buying the products that affiliates are promoting, then why should Google have a problem with it? The fact that people are buying means that the affiliate has filled a need. Google is a great search engine, but they weren’t the first and I don’t imagine they’ll be the last. That’s one of the great things about technology. Today’s winner may be tomorrow’s loser. Until then, I guess we have to suck it up or go elsewhere.

]]> By: Peter http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/comment-page-1/#comment-1406 Peter Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:13:27 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/my-take-on-googles-smack-down-on-affiliates/#comment-1406 Well said Amit... I agree it is getting a bit ridiculous.. whats next? Or should I say, what's left? Peter Well said Amit… I agree it is getting a bit ridiculous.. whats next? Or should I say, what’s left?

Peter

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