Conversation with 2 CJ Top Performers, Part II
October 1st, 2007 by
Amit
Before I talk about my conversation with Jeremy Palmer, I want to address a GREAT point one of my readers, Walter, brought up. Here’s a comment he left on my last post:
“Interesting post, but a rather shallow analysis of how to succeed in such a climate. There are a lot more possibilities than just settling for razor-thin margins and becoming PPC day-traders:
- In super-competitive markets like mortgages some affs are advertising in newspapers, which gets better ROI than paying Google;
- Some affs may settle to break even or lose on the initial offer in favor of building a list and making it back on the back end;
- I’ve seen some make the jump from PPC to SEO’d sites, though that will also get more competitive over time;
- The content network is an underutilized resource, for those that understand how to get results from it;
- There’s Authority sites and how to leverage Web 2.0 to get traffic without going near search engines or PPC.”
Excellent points, Walter! A key aspect of surviving in a high competition, high CPC environment is developing creative strategies to promote your affiliate offers. In fact I’m using several of the strategies that Walter lists above.
Here’s a few more strategies that are hot:
- Develop a viral facebook application with an affiliate offer embedded in it, some affiliates are making a KILLING doing this. This is HOT right now.
- Leverage web 2.0 traffic using the contextual network (even facebook offers contextual advertising now).
- Supplementing your PPC efforts with SEO; this will help your profit margins AND your Google Quality Score. Although I don’t not recommend switching over completely to SEO, unless you REALLY know what you’re doing. Let’s face it ONE algo change can KILL your income overnight.
- Using Google site targeting creative, ala Adwords180 (don’t worry Disappointed, it’s NOT an affiliate link
)!
In regards to building a list, this strategy has been around for a while, the only downside is it only works well in certain markets, in particular info marketing (I RARELY use optins, and have tested them extensively) + Google has tightened the noose on squeeze pages.
Building authority sites that leverage Web 2.0 traffic, is brilliant strategy, and Zac Johnson is the master at this! However, this tactic has been around for a while and this space is also becoming extremely competitive-come on, how many college students do YOU know with myspace layout sites!?!
Not to say that you can’t make a killing if you know what you’re doing.
Bottom line: Yes, by being creative and innovative you can help you stay ahead of the curve and reap a profit. However, the fact is online media and advertising continue to become more and more competitive (and expensive) across the boards, so being creative/innovative alone won’t cut it.
So here’s my revised suggestions from the last post (thanks Walter!)…
Tips to succeed in Affiliate Marketing 2.0 (or 3.0 or whatever!)
- Develop/learn creative strategies that take advantage of market imbalances and new trends, such as the strategies listed above. If you’ve learned the basics of affiliate marketing then you need stop thinking that doing what the majority of affiliates are doing is going to make you a fortune. Start thinking OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, and experimenting with different strategies.
- Tweak, optimize, and expand your current profitable affiliate offers to assure long term profitability. Doing proper & thorough keyword research ALONE will significantly extend the lifetime of your campaigns. So start split testing your landing pages, split testing your Google ads, and expanding your keyword list. And if you think you’ve found all the keywords in your market that convert, YOUR WRONG!
- If you think your one man affiliate show is going to cut it 10 years from how then you’re going to be in for a rude wakening. My suggestion is if you’ve gotten to the point where you are making consistent profits, start building a team now. It doesn’t have to be full time employees, find some good outsources you can work with on a regular basis. You can hire a great web designer in India or Eastern Europe for $10/hr. Elance is a great place to find writers that can crank out articles for you for $10 (or less) apiece.
Building a team will not only allow you to launch affiliate offers at a faster rate, but it will free up your time to develop/learn creative affiliate strategies.
And yes, no matter what, profit margins WILL drop overtime ON AVERAGE. But those affiliates who have the power of a team backing them up so they can: 1) free up their time to develop creative marketing strategies & 2) launch affiliate offers faster than their existing offers lose profitability (and thereby continue to grow their bottom line), are going to dominate the affiliate world.
Don’t be the affiliate who gets cocky and has to end up going to back to work for the Man!
Think long term.
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Great post as usual. I am reminded of the Apple slogan “Think Different”. Look at Shoemoney and his AuctionAds success. Sure, he does PPC. But he certainly does a whole lot more too that he barely talks about or might mention in some offhand way. When he started talking about ringtones, look at what happened to that market. He’s just one very visible example. I’m sure there are lots of other people who don’t blog at all that are quietly making a fortune in some crazy untapped niche that no one ever bothers to think about.
Hey Amit,
Thanks for the mention. Another great post. Motivation is a huge factor in whether you make big bucks online or not, and you always provide that in each post!
Its me again, IMO the PPC window for affiliates will completely close in the next 3-4 years. The best way for existing PPC super affiliates to surrvive is to use their current PPC cashflow to create a defensible web property.
Yes, PPC is great but creating a web property which has a potential $100 Million exit is super great
I totally agree with you in building a team. That’s exactly what I have done and now I mainly focus on what i know is i am really good at.
Thanks.
Bernz
I am one of those that believe in Affiliate marketing with websites more than PPC. Of course ppc is good but having an authority site well ranked in google is free advertising to make money with affiliate programs.
So imagine how much you can make money with an authority site and ppc.
Hi Amit,
Great Post. Yes , i am also using Facebook Flyer Pro right now and by far it is making me money - before every body and his brother jump into it
Bu what is ‘Viral Facebook Affiliate Application’ you are talking about? Can you show one example?
Thanks.
Just in the last few months, I’ve seen my friends who aren’t into affiliate marketing becoming much more aware of the fact that a lot of sites that they end up at through searches are affiliate sites which are designed to promote particular affiliate offers and not really designed to meet the needs of people searching for information. Who has not ended up at a site that looks informative, but after a few minutes of clicking you realize the site has lots of completely unoriginal content and you leave annoyed with the time you just wasted?
Searchers are beginning to realize that many sites are essentially infomercials. They are also getting better at figuring out which sites are real content sites and which are not. Real content is produced by publishers who utilize editors and writers much like print publications. In the past, the best affiliates were superb marketers. In the future the best affiliates will be publishers. My two cents…
Thanks!
Some great ideas here. More twists on making a buck from affiliate marketing.