Comments on: Are Long Tail Keywords the Holy Grail of Search? http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/ Insights and Thoughts from a World Class Internet Marketer Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:28:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Small Business Website Design http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-34618 Small Business Website Design Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:17:28 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-34618 As a website designer, the use of long-tali keywords has made an enormous impact to my business. Trying to gain a decent position on keywords such as 'website design' is utterly fruitless but recently I selected numerous geographical locations near my home town and optimised pages for 'website design anytown', 'website design thistown', etc, etc. Out of the 20-odd new ULR's I created specifically for the geographical locations, I've already got listings on page 1 of Google with 8 of them. God bless long-tail keywords! As a website designer, the use of long-tali keywords has made an enormous impact to my business. Trying to gain a decent position on keywords such as ‘website design’ is utterly fruitless but recently I selected numerous geographical locations near my home town and optimised pages for ‘website design anytown’, ‘website design thistown’, etc, etc. Out of the 20-odd new ULR’s I created specifically for the geographical locations, I’ve already got listings on page 1 of Google with 8 of them. God bless long-tail keywords!

]]> By: Grand http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7511 Grand Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:08:53 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7511 Hi Amit! Your presentation on BIP was interesting, but the concept of going "wide" - how effective is it if you have a limited number of pages on your site, and every page is optimised for, say, name of product and 1 or 2 qualifiers. How to exaclty understand the meaning of going wide? - finding synonyms of your main keywords (ex. laptop review -> notebook review -> portable computer review ... etc) or this is something else? I'd be glad if you clarify the point, thanks! Hi Amit!

Your presentation on BIP was interesting, but the concept of going “wide” – how effective is it if you have a limited number of pages on your site, and every page is optimised for, say, name of product and 1 or 2 qualifiers.

How to exaclty understand the meaning of going wide? – finding synonyms of your main keywords (ex. laptop review -> notebook review -> portable computer review … etc) or this is something else?

I’d be glad if you clarify the point, thanks!

]]> By: Jon http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7478 Jon Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:31:19 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7478 In Tyler's comment he stated that there are affiliates that doing $400k a month using nothing but organic search. What are your thoughts on this, Amit? If these numbers are indeed accurate, I'm assuming they must be using some powerful tools like Jeff Johnson's Traffic King Pro. Do you have any recommendations where an aspiring affiliate marketer can learn the techniques and strategies of the $400k a month earner who is doing with with organic search. I have to say, I'm a bit skeptical . . . but I am trying to be open minded on this one. Jon In Tyler’s comment he stated that there are affiliates that doing $400k a month using nothing but organic search. What are your thoughts on this, Amit? If these numbers are indeed accurate, I’m assuming they must be using some powerful tools like Jeff Johnson’s Traffic King Pro.

Do you have any recommendations where an aspiring affiliate marketer can learn the techniques and strategies of the $400k a month earner who is doing with with organic search.

I have to say, I’m a bit skeptical . . . but I am trying to be open minded on this one.

Jon

]]> By: Jon Poland http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7468 Jon Poland Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:43:43 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7468 Amit: If you were going to build a campaign with tens of thousands of longtail keywords, what tools would you use to automate the entire process? Efficient PPC? Anything else? Thanks. Jon Amit:

If you were going to build a campaign with tens of thousands of longtail keywords, what tools would you use to automate the entire process?

Efficient PPC? Anything else?

Thanks.

Jon

]]> By: Burchie http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7429 Burchie Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:52:55 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7429 @ Alex Buds--- Google will lift the limit on your keywords once you've "proven" yourself to them. (I think Amit mentioned it a little while back). @Small business Laptops "Why not just buy a premium domain and build a business around it. Seems like you jump around toooo much f@#cking around with google this and google that. You have the money, buy a domain like spyware.com , cheaphandbags.com and so on and build a business around it. I mean you already know how to send affiliate sales, go all netshop around the net." Unfortunately, we're all pretty much doomed to jump through hoops for google, half of the stuff on this site is about jumping through hoops for google. It really doesn't that much (it helps) what your domain is. Any domain can be the equivalent of a "premium" domain if you know how to use it. aalhaoqnsaf.com could be make you a lot of money if you used it right. i.e. jumped through some hoops for google. db @ Alex Buds— Google will lift the limit on your keywords once you’ve “proven” yourself to them. (I think Amit mentioned it a little while back).

@Small business Laptops “Why not just buy a premium domain and build a business around it. Seems like you jump around toooo much f@#cking around with google this and google that.
You have the money, buy a domain like spyware.com , cheaphandbags.com and so on and build a business around it. I mean you already know how to send affiliate sales, go all netshop around the net.”

Unfortunately, we’re all pretty much doomed to jump through hoops for google, half of the stuff on this site is about jumping through hoops for google.

It really doesn’t that much (it helps) what your domain is. Any domain can be the equivalent of a “premium” domain if you know how to use it. aalhaoqnsaf.com could be make you a lot of money if you used it right. i.e. jumped through some hoops for google.

db

]]> By: jimm01 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7416 jimm01 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:31:41 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7416 your site has been hacked - just take a look at your meta description your site has been hacked – just take a look at your meta description

]]> By: small business laptops http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7414 small business laptops Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:34:23 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7414 Why not just buy a premium domain and build a business around it. Seems like you jump around toooo much f@#cking around with google this and google that. You have the money, buy a domain like spyware.com , cheaphandbags.com and so on and build a business around it. I mean you already know how to send affiliate sales, go all netshop around the net. Just my 2 cents. Why not just buy a premium domain and build a business around it. Seems like you jump around toooo much f@#cking around with google this and google that.
You have the money, buy a domain like spyware.com , cheaphandbags.com and so on and build a business around it. I mean you already know how to send affiliate sales, go all netshop around the net.
Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: Alex Buds http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7413 Alex Buds Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:48:36 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7413 I still don't understand how you can set up millions of long-tail keywords and get by the 50k keyword/account limit. Of course you could do that by starting zillions of adwords accounts, but that would be frustrating to manage (and you'd probably incur the big G's wrath at some point and find yourself out of business overnight after alot of work setting them up...) I'm going to hazard a guess that C2C has a special relationship with Google which allows them to sidestep the limitations on mere mortals. I know they had raised millions of dollars from VCs recently and opened an office in Silicon Valley. They had stated in the press release that a big motivation for doing so was to strengthen their relationship with their search partners (Google, Yahoo!). I still don’t understand how you can set up millions of long-tail keywords and get by the 50k keyword/account limit. Of course you could do that by starting zillions of adwords accounts, but that would be frustrating to manage (and you’d probably incur the big G’s wrath at some point and find yourself out of business overnight after alot of work setting them up…)

I’m going to hazard a guess that C2C has a special relationship with Google which allows them to sidestep the limitations on mere mortals. I know they had raised millions of dollars from VCs recently and opened an office in Silicon Valley. They had stated in the press release that a big motivation for doing so was to strengthen their relationship with their search partners (Google, Yahoo!).

]]> By: Patrick http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7394 Patrick Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:26:14 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7394 The "bid high to get a high CTR and QS" strategy hasn't worked for a long time. Everything you do IS compared to averages. So even if you are in the #1 spot, if your CTR is 5% and the average CTR for the #1 spot is 7%, you're still not going to "build up your QS". It really doesn't matter what position you start at, because everything you do is compared to other advertisers and their results. As far as keyword and adgroup limits, just use the AdWords My Client Center - you can setup as many accounts as you want and manage them all from the MCC (even programatically using their API if you REALLY want to get fancy) The “bid high to get a high CTR and QS” strategy hasn’t worked for a long time. Everything you do IS compared to averages. So even if you are in the #1 spot, if your CTR is 5% and the average CTR for the #1 spot is 7%, you’re still not going to “build up your QS”. It really doesn’t matter what position you start at, because everything you do is compared to other advertisers and their results.

As far as keyword and adgroup limits, just use the AdWords My Client Center – you can setup as many accounts as you want and manage them all from the MCC (even programatically using their API if you REALLY want to get fancy)

]]> By: Sands http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7393 Sands Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:30:22 +0000 http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/are-long-tail-keywords-the-holy-grail-of-search/#comment-7393 I am doing the “go two weeks and use high CTRs to get a great QS” stage right now. For me when ever I venture into even the 50 Plus KWs range I get slapped by Google. Even with a 4% CTR plus avgs I get slapped. I think what we do is always relative to how well others do in a niche. I can get 60% CTRS and if other get 75% I will get slapped at some point. I hope I am wrong. I feel the Mighty G culls every once in a while for the higher CTR's. lower maintenance costs. Don’t get me wrong I love this topic; I know yourguys know much more than I ever will. PS what software does the epc avegage and bidding adjustments for someone? I am doing the “go two weeks and use high CTRs to get a great QS” stage right now.

For me when ever I venture into even the 50 Plus KWs range I get slapped by Google.

Even with a 4% CTR plus avgs I get slapped.

I think what we do is always relative to how well others do in a niche. I can get 60% CTRS and if other get 75% I will get slapped at some point. I hope I am wrong.

I feel the Mighty G culls every once in a while for the higher CTR’s. lower maintenance costs.

Don’t get me wrong I love this topic; I know yourguys know much more than I ever will.

PS
what software does the epc avegage and bidding adjustments for someone?

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