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		<title>By: hitesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Can i calculate CTR from getKeywordEstimate call of Adword API,
which has removed CTR and impressiond field from the API call ?

It reutrns me 
[lowerAveragePosition]
    [upperAveragePosition] 
    [estimatedAveragePosition]
    [lowerCostPerClick]
    [upperCostPerClick] 
    [estimatedCostPerClick] 
    [lowerClicksPerDay] 
    [upperClicksPerDay] 
    [estimatedClicksPerDay] 
    [estimatedCostPerDay]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Can i calculate CTR from getKeywordEstimate call of Adword API,<br />
which has removed CTR and impressiond field from the API call ?</p>
<p>It reutrns me<br />
[lowerAveragePosition]<br />
    [upperAveragePosition]<br />
    [estimatedAveragePosition]<br />
    [lowerCostPerClick]<br />
    [upperCostPerClick]<br />
    [estimatedCostPerClick]<br />
    [lowerClicksPerDay]<br />
    [upperClicksPerDay]<br />
    [estimatedClicksPerDay]<br />
    [estimatedCostPerDay]</p>
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		<title>By: smaxor</title>
		<link>http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/adwords-question-from-a-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-1802</link>
		<dc:creator>smaxor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m well aware of domain history and account history. Now the next question... Lets say we take a new account and new domain. Then we run a bunch of content network ads and get a nice history going from that. Will it transfer over to search bidding/placement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m well aware of domain history and account history. Now the next question&#8230; Lets say we take a new account and new domain. Then we run a bunch of content network ads and get a nice history going from that. Will it transfer over to search bidding/placement?</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amit,

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! You really know your stuff ;).

Inside the webpage that Joshua referred to: http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215 , it lists 2 types of Quality Score, and I guess you were referring to the first one (i.e: the one for determining minimum bids)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amit,</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! You really know your stuff <img src='http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Inside the webpage that Joshua referred to: <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215" rel="nofollow">http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215</a> , it lists 2 types of Quality Score, and I guess you were referring to the first one (i.e: the one for determining minimum bids)?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amit, Thanks for the great info. Especially about the history factor. I&#039;ve never read any info about that before.

From your experience do you think that the history factor is set in certain increments such as 7 days, 30 days, 60 days, etc. So, every time you go beyond that time increment it will help increase your ad positioning? Or do you think that it could possibly be calculated relative to your competition?

Also, what do you think Google calculates the history factor for? The campaign as a whole? Each text ad? Each keyword?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amit, Thanks for the great info. Especially about the history factor. I&#8217;ve never read any info about that before.</p>
<p>From your experience do you think that the history factor is set in certain increments such as 7 days, 30 days, 60 days, etc. So, every time you go beyond that time increment it will help increase your ad positioning? Or do you think that it could possibly be calculated relative to your competition?</p>
<p>Also, what do you think Google calculates the history factor for? The campaign as a whole? Each text ad? Each keyword?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred @ Newest on the Net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred @ Newest on the Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Amit.  I linked to it today on my blog.  I am not sure why the trackback is not showing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Amit.  I linked to it today on my blog.  I am not sure why the trackback is not showing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joshua and Ghoti,

I was confused about how the quality scored played a role in your actual ad position for a long time.  For speaking with Perry Marshall about this, I can tell you confidently that your ad position is determined by:

CTR X (Bid Price) x (a history factor) 

I don&#039;t care what Google claims, don&#039;t expect them to publish this information. This is the best information I have on the subject.

Also, I believe that Google includes CTR is part of the quality score, and incidentally the only part (along with bid price and history) that effects your ad position.

I have 3 Google accounts and over 27 active campaigns, and have spend over a million dollar on Google this year alone, so trust me on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joshua and Ghoti,</p>
<p>I was confused about how the quality scored played a role in your actual ad position for a long time.  For speaking with Perry Marshall about this, I can tell you confidently that your ad position is determined by:</p>
<p>CTR X (Bid Price) x (a history factor) </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what Google claims, don&#8217;t expect them to publish this information. This is the best information I have on the subject.</p>
<p>Also, I believe that Google includes CTR is part of the quality score, and incidentally the only part (along with bid price and history) that effects your ad position.</p>
<p>I have 3 Google accounts and over 27 active campaigns, and have spend over a million dollar on Google this year alone, so trust me on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amit, great info - I can honestly say I&#039;ve paid $100&#039;s for adwords guides that don&#039;t sum it up as well as you have in one blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amit, great info &#8211; I can honestly say I&#8217;ve paid $100&#8217;s for adwords guides that don&#8217;t sum it up as well as you have in one blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Wexelbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Wexelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amit,

&quot;Remember your quality score ONLY effects your minimum bids &amp; NOT your ad position (except for placement in the pink sponsored link bar)&quot;

Unless I&#039;m misunderstanding your statement, I believe you may be in error:

&quot;Quality Score influences your ads&#039; position on Google and the Google Network. It also partly determines your keywords&#039; minimum bids. In general, the higher your Quality Score, the better your ad position and the lower your minimum bids.&quot;

From http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215:

Nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amit,</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember your quality score ONLY effects your minimum bids &amp; NOT your ad position (except for placement in the pink sponsored link bar)&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m misunderstanding your statement, I believe you may be in error:</p>
<p>&#8220;Quality Score influences your ads&#8217; position on Google and the Google Network. It also partly determines your keywords&#8217; minimum bids. In general, the higher your Quality Score, the better your ad position and the lower your minimum bids.&#8221;</p>
<p>From <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215" rel="nofollow">http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=10215</a>:</p>
<p>Nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: ghoti</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty good overview. :-)

You might also want to point out that the formula for calculating Ad Rank on the Content Network is a little bit different than for the Search Network.  The differences are explained by Google &lt;a href=&quot;http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=6111&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

And please don&#039;t perpetuate the myth that &quot;if you have double the CTR you pay 1/2 the bid price for the same ad position&quot;, because it&#039;s not true.  Yes, doubling your CTR will improve the QS used for Ad Ranking, but it will not actually double that QS because there many are other factors involved besides the CTR.  If you want to &quot;pay 1/2 the bid price for the same ad position&quot;, you have to double the quality of ALL of the factors in the QS rather than just the CTR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good overview. <img src='http://www.superaffiliatemindset.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You might also want to point out that the formula for calculating Ad Rank on the Content Network is a little bit different than for the Search Network.  The differences are explained by Google <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=6111" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t perpetuate the myth that &#8220;if you have double the CTR you pay 1/2 the bid price for the same ad position&#8221;, because it&#8217;s not true.  Yes, doubling your CTR will improve the QS used for Ad Ranking, but it will not actually double that QS because there many are other factors involved besides the CTR.  If you want to &#8220;pay 1/2 the bid price for the same ad position&#8221;, you have to double the quality of ALL of the factors in the QS rather than just the CTR.</p>
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